Ragtag the 3rd

Friday, April 29, 2005

The Age long Iran Myth,

I have to point out that the situations in Egypt and Iran are very differernt. Iran has very powerful, respected and centralised religious intstitutions that where capable of consolidating power very easily following the revolution. This is not true for Egypt. In Egypt the main religious institution (Al Azhar) is no longer as powerful or as respected as it was in the past, mainly because of its government affiliation.

The Notorious Muslim brotherhood on the other hand is not as powerful and organised as most people believe. Believe it or not most people know nothing about it except its name and that it calls for Islam as a solution. It's members (Ikwangia) are considered suspicious by most of the population and are thought of as religious fanatics.

Yes, Egyptians hold religion in high regard, however many tend to think of religion as a personal or family matter. There is no centralised religious establishment that most people look up to.

Most Egyptians want a change in government for the following reasons :
1. Improvement of their quality of life.
2. Respect for their humanity and dignity.

They'll support any government that gives them just that.

Besides as I mentioned before the movements pushing for change are actually calling for structural reform, i.e. the formation of the basic institutions (and constitution) on which future governments could formed. This certainly would (hopefully) guarantee that it wouldn't be a "one man, one vote, one time".

Mubarak has remained in power for as long as he has through convincing the West (the US in particular) and his own people(!!!) that an alternative to him is an (Iran style Islamic theocracy). That is a myth and its about time it should end.

It is true that the Muslim Brotherhood is well organised, but it doesn't have the power or popularity enabling it to grab power and impose a dictatorship.

8 Comments:

  • GM, those liberals you want to appear have their own ideas of what you should wear, drink, smoke, eat, see and hear as well. And even on the off chance you agree with those ideas, there will always be somone that doesn't.
    What Egypt really needs is a strong constitution that delimits the power of whoever is in charge to dictate what you read, write, see, smoke, fuck, drink, etc. etc.
    America used to have one until the Liberals (political sense) stacked our Judical system with judges that were willing to rewrite the Law instead of upholding it. Fortunatly, the Constitution of the United States was written by men who forsaw the possibility of that happening and included a mechanism for correcting it.
    So far Iraq has produced some very good canidates for leadership. There is absolutly no reason to think that a nation noted for it's thinkers, as egypt is, cannot do the same.
    But the journey has to start somewhere and sometime. When and where will not affect the difficulty of that journey, however when will make a difference in how long it takes. Now is the best time, although yesterday would have been better. At some point in the near future Egypt is destined for a bloody revolution. Why not start it now while you have the worlds only hyperpower on your side and lots of company?
    What is the advantage in waiting 5 years? In a few years your neighbors will either be consolidating their own governments and be to busy to help you, or they will be activly supporting the revolution in Egypt in an attempt to bring a puppet to power. In 3 or 4 more years America will be looking to China and not really want to be bothered by the ME anymore.
    In Texas there is an expression; "Strike while the Iron is hot".

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 29 April, 2005 07:57  

  • GM,

    I didn't say that the MB are disorganised, I actually stressed that they where. What I said is that they lack power or influence to start a revolution on their own. That is why the are trying to ally themselves with other opposition groups that are more appealing to the public.

    On the other side, the Islamists (I call them the militants) are not at all as powerful as you're saying. They have no solid presence in Egypts political arena and lack any significant public support. They are a disruptive force but there is no way they have any chance of taking power.

    I'll be writing a post on Islam and Egyptians and would appreciate your feed back. Stay tuned.

    By Blogger ragtag_the_3rd, at 29 April, 2005 09:38  

  • I have a quick question. Why do you say the USA has kept Murbarak in power? Believe me, if there was coup and another General replaced Mubarak after killing him, the USA would not send troops or anything else to help Mubarak.
    Same if there was an uprising and the mob ran him out of the country. The Money that the USA sends Egypt is for making peace with Israel. If Mubarak's replacement kept to the treaty terms, so would America. If Murbarak's replacement opted out of the treaty, the USA would stop sending money.
    So how do you figure the USA is supporting Mubarak? Seems to me that he neither wants nor has support from the USA, other then a reasonably straightforward business deal.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 30 April, 2005 18:10  

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 04 November, 2005 22:32  

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